It became apparent that, while Java is a good language for small applications, Java is not adequate to address the needs of current/future high-end applications, normally written in the much more powerful and versatile C/C++ languages. Java is slow, and requires all C/C++ applications to be completely rewritten. Often, applications ported from C/C++ to Java produces product at high cost. from http://ivm.sourceforge.net/icvmcpp.html So, Java is doomed now? -- MJR Thesis watch: 27% This is my personal web site =-> http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.alug.org.uk/ <-- This is the LUG I go to I work for this clever internet developer ==> http://www.luminas.co.uk/