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RE: [alug social] Discrimination in action?
by Jenny Hopkins 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

:-)))))))))) Jen > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirsten Naylor [mailto:wildduck@wildduck.org.uk] > Sent: 06 March 2004 13:02 > To: social(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [alug social] Discrimination in action? > > > On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 06:02, Syd Hancock wrote: > > > You're young, you're intelligent and energetic, you have no children > > Well, no current children. But one might be along in nine > months or so. We're not sure either way atm. > > /Kirsten > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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RE: [alug social] Discrimination in action?
by Jenny Hopkins 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

Adam, there are always many sides to most debates, but this is what my feelings are on this (hope it makes sense): > Today, I am reading the Eastern Daily Press and I see a big > advert with the > title "Women into Networking" which is a free course, for > people aged 19 or > over which covers the "CISCO network academy" and also gives > you the A+ > certificate at the end of it. The course is receiving special > funding from the government and the European Social Fund. Of > course there is a big catch, "women only" now as Kirsty will > be able to confirm, I am most definitely not a woman. > Now I would like some opinions from people here about > > a. is this sexual discrimination? Well, yes. > b. is this fair? > c. am i justified in complaining about this? It is perhaps trying to redress the balance of the last century. Women doing the same jobs as men are still promoted less and paid less. Often these women are struggling to keep a good job that requires full time commitment whilst running a home and family (as most men still leacve the majority of this to women even when both work full time). Women with IT skills are not as respected as their male contemporaries who can sometimes just have louder voices, larger egos and smaller brains. I speak from experience. We all know this. The people who set up the course will know this. It does not answer the problems that you have finding a similar course, but perhaps rather than complaining about this course it would be more prudent to look into ways of getting a course that does encompass you: get in touch with the people who set up this course and ask them where they got their funding, for example. > d. do you know of any good people to complain to? I am > currently taking this up with the college, the job centre, > the agencies who are providing funding to the course and > local MPs and MEPs. I think I will contact the > papers/tele/radio types next week. > Don't you think it would be a pity to take something away from the women you will benefit from the course? As I say, they have had an unfair time of it over the last 50 years, women in IT need a break. I can understand your frustration, though. You're not one of the ones with a loud voice and small brain :-) In my opinion, it is a bloody good thing to get more women into IT and more respected. I also think it is time to drop some of the shackles both men and women are starting to drag around because of what society has currently developed into. How about campaigning for jobsharing, irrespective of sex, for a start? We could all do with less pressure and there would also be enough work to go round. Next week: Women in Plumbing. :-) Jenny ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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RE: [alug social] Re: [ALUG] OpenSSH
by Jenny Hopkins 27 Feb '04

27 Feb '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Sample [mailto:linux@antimatters.co.uk] > On a slightly more serious note... when are the LUG meets > around here? > by here I mean peterborough/huntingdon area (cambridge is a > nightmare for parking/getting to)... the PLUG site has very > little info and says the next event will be in 2003, so I'm > not holding out much hope for turning up for that one, lol. > > Duncan > Duncan, our meetings are up on the alug website. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/ > PS: anyone know where to find techie girls (any single ones > on here)? the UserFriendly P2P site is really sparce, lol > Look out, all the techie grrrls on this list are DANGEROUS. > Jen ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Re: [ALUG] OpenSSH
by John Woodard 27 Feb '04

27 Feb '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Harding" <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> To: "Craig" <c(a)wizball.co.uk> Cc: <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: RE: [ALUG] OpenSSH > On 25-Feb-04 Craig wrote: > > (Off topic.. does anyone love other tea? Like English Breakfast, Assam, > > Earl Grey etc? ;) > > I like Assam myself, or Darjeeling for a change ... > > But the secret of life is in COFFEE! But the secret to life the universe and everything is 42... ... or BEER! Cheers, BJ

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tea
by Jenny Hopkins 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

Craig wrote: (Off topic.. does anyone love other tea? Like English Breakfast, Assam, Earl Grey etc? ;) I like twinings Chai tea mmm. and real coffeeeeeeeeee.... mmm Jen ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Re: A couple of interesting articles about working for yourself
by MJ Ray 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

I think this is off-topic, so I'm sending to social@ instead of main. On 2004-02-17 17:56:19 +0000 Matt Parker <matt(a)mpcontracting.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 16:54, kpwatson(a)pop3.ukfsn.org wrote: >> part 1 = http://homepage.mac.com/monickels/techjob.html I'm pretty sure I read these before starting off this time around. They go a bit far in some ways, but it's all an opinion piece, really. > [...] I'm not sure > what is required for tech support, but for development, you're gonna > need at least 4-5 years of commercial experience on your CV before you > will even be considered. Of course, it depends on who you're trying to work for. If you're willing to learn, then you can get into new areas and it becomes more about what you know than how long you've been doing it. > I've also turned down business, [...] I didn't like some of the > clauses > in the contract Yes, this happens far too often. Another favourite is trying to write into the contract exactly what tools you will use. I wonder how they get anyone to repair their doors? ("You will use only a rubber mallet and a toothpick.") > Anyway, there are tons of contract jobs out there - jobserve.com is my > favourite place to look since the jobs tend to be real. I like to talk to lots of people, but some have remarked on that before :) > You will need to register yourself as a Limited Company as well, and > get > good indemnity insurance. PII can be worthwhile, but check the terms very closely. Limited Company status is only important to some people and it's more imagined status than real. Yes, watch IR35, but you are going to make more money working and paying an accountant than you'll save by farting around trying to fiddle the taxman and using loopholes. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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LinkNorfolk coming to Newton Flotman
by Syd Hancock 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

For anyone who follows the spread of BB networks - the Five Villages BroadBand project, based around the Poringland, Framingham Earl, Stoke Holy Cross area, is very close to signing a contract with wireless provider Link Norfolk. They plan to install a node on the mast at Stoke Holy Cross which will serve an area of approx 18 kilometres radius. Expected to be up and running within 2-3 months. BTW, for anyone who has not seen it, there is an excellent site here: http://www.samknows.com/broadband This site has what must be some of the most detailed info on the exchanges and adsl registrations available. Syd

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Blogging again
by MJ Ray 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

I have a "blog" up and running again at http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/ with another page for AFFS things. I'll upload the code that runs it (Ma Bloss) this weekend. Do other ALUGgers blog? Enough for a wiki page? Enough for a planet?

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Jedi
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/rank/jedi.asp Quite a few in Norwich!

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Weetabix Cake
by MJ Ray 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

200g dried fruit (sultanas, raisins, and so on) * 2 weetabix * 150g sugar * 275ml milk * 200g SR flour 1 egg 1/2tsp mixed spice (optional) * Put the * ingredients in a bowl together and leave for a minute. Mix well, then stir in the other ingredients. Put in a greased shallow cake tin (20cm diameter) and bake for 1hr at gas mark 3. Turn out, cool, eat, enjoy and spot the cunning. Now, can I patent this algorithm...? After all, the correct proportions seem unobvious to most. ;-)

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