Following adams suggestion of watching "The secret History of hacking" I was intreagued enough to watch, I was amazed that the program was actually quite good, it didn't just cover the basic Haxor prats but covered alot of stuff I didn't know like the Home brew computing club etc... I was pleasently surprised by this program. What did others think? Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Arrg I thought about it and decided it would be the normal rubbish :) I am in Essex, but there doesn't seem to be any decent groups near by so guess I will be joining you guys soon if you will have me :) Darren
-----Original Message----- From: alug-admin@stu.uea.ac.uk [mailto:alug-admin@stu.uea.ac.uk]On Behalf Of David Freeman Sent: 22 July 2001 21:25 To: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk; social@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [Alug] Phreaked out
Following adams suggestion of watching "The secret History of hacking" I was intreagued enough to watch, I was amazed that the program was actually quite good, it didn't just cover the basic Haxor prats but covered alot of stuff I didn't know like the Home brew computing club etc...
I was pleasently surprised by this program. What did others think?
Thanks
D
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
I was pleasently surprised by this program. What did others think?
It was alright, I already knew most of the background etc. although I feel it must of been very enlightening to people who already know some of the background of hacking etc. but not the full history, but I must say the representation of the "hacker" was very lacking. It seemed to infer that hackers used to be good and now they are bad! I felt that the program would of had more credibility (on a personal level) if they made a distinction between people who "hack" and people who "crack" This kind of representation can prove a little difficult to overcome in social situations. I have told people (in a social setting) that I am a Unix hacker before and they freak out because they think I am stealing their credit card numbers! this program did little to redress the balance only to re-enforce it. Adam PS another question... should this kind of discussion only take place on the ALug social list? or is it "on topic" enough? -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam
Adam Bower wrote:
representation of the "hacker" was very lacking. It seemed to infer that
Infer? I think you mean "imply", which may explain any misunderstanding... Infer != imply... Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie@brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Laurie Brown wrote:
Adam Bower wrote:
representation of the "hacker" was very lacking. It seemed to infer that
Infer? I think you mean "imply", which may explain any misunderstanding... Infer != imply...
Aah yes, I have just looked at this. I did actually mean infer! albeit that the inference was made from what we (real hackers) would describe as false data or information. I would of said the program implied something but they made it very clear that hackers were once good and are now bad hence (I believe) the inference. I have just looked them (infer & imply) up in the OED though and it is interesting to note that I probably meant something between infer and imply as I didn't actually know the complete difference between the two (and the several pints of lager I had just drunk also probably didn't help!) but there was some nagging feeling at the time of writing. Also noteworthy is that "over 20% of the citations for infer in the British National Corpex are erroneous for imply." source OED. Adam PS this is now on alug social only so that ppl don't get upset. -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam
Just a quick note to ask that if anybody cross-posts to the Social list from the general Alug list and/or vice versa please be aware that any response from non-members of the Alug Social list will need to be approved by the moderator(s) before their post is sent to the Social list. Thanks, Martyn -- http://www.drake.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk Mobile/SMS: 07720 050 967 Fax: 0207 900 2254 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Freeman" <david_freeman@rocketmail.com> To: <alug@stu.uea.ac.uk>; <social@lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: [Alug] Phreaked out
Following adams suggestion of watching "The secret History of hacking" I was intreagued enough to watch, I was amazed that the program was actually quite good, it didn't just cover the basic Haxor prats but covered alot of stuff I didn't know like the Home brew computing club etc...
I was pleasently surprised by this program. What did others think?
Thanks
D
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